l'boxers:
Since my Letterboxer quotient is currently P0/F0 (placed zero, found zero
(yet!) this may seem to be continuing the long-hanging list/site
discussion, but I enjoy this list and am glad to be a part of it and want
to contribute an opinion...
I like looking for, finding and comparing websites. I love seeing lots of
different ideas and styles on the web. I also think that uber-sites
(umbrella sites) are an important need, especially for the reasons Deborah
mentioned. In addition to any and all official, group run, organizationally
focused sites (commercial or not) I would love to see gobs and gobs of
personal letterboxing sites, regional sites, tools and techniques sites,
etc.. Nothing thrills me more than seeing sites proliferate in celebration
of a wonderful hobby or pursuit.
Perhaps it would be a good tack to let as many types of sites pop up as
possible, and then any interested ubersite can scan and surf and collect
them for linking, and if the ubersite has some magnificent techno-engine
that helps it to be the most efficient and traffic-generating site for the
hobby (as has already been displayed by the mapping technique) people will
chose to be part of it, either by linking or posting clues or being linked,
rather than feel some sense of pressure, or think that there is only one
place.
Most of the successful resource sites I know of put a lot of effort in
keeping current with new sites, and linking to them. Usually this means
that whoever(s) are developing the resource site know a heck of a lot about
the web landscape and this creates an expertise that is evident in the
resource site. These are the sites that I trust and return to often.
I think that there are letterboxers out there that are not yet using the
web as a resource, and as the online letterboxing community gets bigger and
bigger, then more sites and more lists and most importantly, *more boxes*
enrich the whole deal.
After all, to get good ideas, you have to have *lots* of ideas! %^)
-Kate "1 box by 2000" Rutter
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More the merrier....
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Started on 1999-05-25
[L-USA] More the merrier....
From: Kate Rutter (kate@intelleto.com) |
Date: 1999-05-25 16:52:29 UTC-07:00
[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: erik/susan davis (davisarc@wcvt.com) |
Date: 1999-05-25 21:19:19 UTC-07:00
Kate:
I appreciate your thoughtful comments - the organizational "structure"
(or perhaps, lack of it) seems to me to be the most dynamic model to
follow. Like the hobby itself in the US, the organization, whether one
or many sites, will evolve in whatever works best for those using teh
resource. I don't think we need to plan every last detail to have viable
ways of getting info available and distributed.
Perhaps some see it an anarchy - but in a way, that is the web.
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I appreciate your thoughtful comments - the organizational "structure"
(or perhaps, lack of it) seems to me to be the most dynamic model to
follow. Like the hobby itself in the US, the organization, whether one
or many sites, will evolve in whatever works best for those using teh
resource. I don't think we need to plan every last detail to have viable
ways of getting info available and distributed.
Perhaps some see it an anarchy - but in a way, that is the web.
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: (MixtMedia@aol.com) |
Date: 1999-05-26 03:19:58 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 5/25/99 7:09:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
kate@intelleto.com writes:
> ...In addition to any and all official, group run, organizationally
> focused sites (commercial or not) I would love to see gobs and gobs of
> personal letterboxing sites, regional sites, tools and techniques sites,
> etc.. Nothing thrills me more than seeing sites proliferate in celebration
> of a wonderful hobby or pursuit.
>
> Perhaps it would be a good tack to let as many types of sites pop up as
> possible, and then any interested ubersite can scan and surf and collect
> them for linking....
Thanks for the thoughts, Kate! I'm turned head over heels as for some
reason I never too much thought of the site looking for the letterboxer
rather than the letterboxer looking for the site.... still new at this, I
guess. The funny thing ~ your view of being thrilled at tons and
tons of new sites ~ I guess I would find that exciting, too, and I
like exploring sometimes, but mostly I groan when I see that
sentence.... you know, the one that says "AltaVista has found
985388 web sites for you". (As you may have guessed, I'm terrible
at finding what I'm looking for....)
Deborah (P+&-1/F1 glorious box!)
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kate@intelleto.com writes:
> ...In addition to any and all official, group run, organizationally
> focused sites (commercial or not) I would love to see gobs and gobs of
> personal letterboxing sites, regional sites, tools and techniques sites,
> etc.. Nothing thrills me more than seeing sites proliferate in celebration
> of a wonderful hobby or pursuit.
>
> Perhaps it would be a good tack to let as many types of sites pop up as
> possible, and then any interested ubersite can scan and surf and collect
> them for linking....
Thanks for the thoughts, Kate! I'm turned head over heels as for some
reason I never too much thought of the site looking for the letterboxer
rather than the letterboxer looking for the site.... still new at this, I
guess. The funny thing ~ your view of being thrilled at tons and
tons of new sites ~ I guess I would find that exciting, too, and I
like exploring sometimes, but mostly I groan when I see that
sentence.... you know, the one that says "AltaVista has found
985388 web sites for you". (As you may have guessed, I'm terrible
at finding what I'm looking for....)
Deborah (P+&-1/F1 glorious box!)
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: Bonita McLaughlin (bonitasusan@hotmail.com) |
Date: 1999-05-26 05:54:56 UTC-07:00
Kate, this is one of the most sensible, inspiring posts on this subject that
I have seen. You seem to have a good sense/vision of the possibilities the
web offers. Thanks for your sharing your thoughts!
Bonnie
In rainy Massachusetts
PS. Don't feel bad about your Placed/Found quotient. Mine is not much
better--P3, F0!
>From: Kate Rutter
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>Subject: [L-USA] More the merrier....
>Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:52:29 -0700
>
>l'boxers:
>
>Since my Letterboxer quotient is currently P0/F0 (placed zero, found zero
>(yet!) this may seem to be continuing the long-hanging list/site
>discussion, but I enjoy this list and am glad to be a part of it and want
>to contribute an opinion...
>
>I like looking for, finding and comparing websites. I love seeing lots of
>different ideas and styles on the web. I also think that uber-sites
>(umbrella sites) are an important need, especially for the reasons Deborah
>mentioned. In addition to any and all official, group run, organizationally
>focused sites (commercial or not) I would love to see gobs and gobs of
>personal letterboxing sites, regional sites, tools and techniques sites,
>etc.. Nothing thrills me more than seeing sites proliferate in celebration
>of a wonderful hobby or pursuit.
>
>Perhaps it would be a good tack to let as many types of sites pop up as
>possible, and then any interested ubersite can scan and surf and collect
>them for linking, and if the ubersite has some magnificent techno-engine
>that helps it to be the most efficient and traffic-generating site for the
>hobby (as has already been displayed by the mapping technique) people will
>chose to be part of it, either by linking or posting clues or being linked,
>rather than feel some sense of pressure, or think that there is only one
>place.
>
>Most of the successful resource sites I know of put a lot of effort in
>keeping current with new sites, and linking to them. Usually this means
>that whoever(s) are developing the resource site know a heck of a lot about
>the web landscape and this creates an expertise that is evident in the
>resource site. These are the sites that I trust and return to often.
>
>I think that there are letterboxers out there that are not yet using the
>web as a resource, and as the online letterboxing community gets bigger and
>bigger, then more sites and more lists and most importantly, *more boxes*
>enrich the whole deal.
>
>After all, to get good ideas, you have to have *lots* of ideas! %^)
>
>-Kate "1 box by 2000" Rutter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>www.intelleto.com
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I have seen. You seem to have a good sense/vision of the possibilities the
web offers. Thanks for your sharing your thoughts!
Bonnie
In rainy Massachusetts
PS. Don't feel bad about your Placed/Found quotient. Mine is not much
better--P3, F0!
>From: Kate Rutter
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>Subject: [L-USA] More the merrier....
>Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:52:29 -0700
>
>l'boxers:
>
>Since my Letterboxer quotient is currently P0/F0 (placed zero, found zero
>(yet!) this may seem to be continuing the long-hanging list/site
>discussion, but I enjoy this list and am glad to be a part of it and want
>to contribute an opinion...
>
>I like looking for, finding and comparing websites. I love seeing lots of
>different ideas and styles on the web. I also think that uber-sites
>(umbrella sites) are an important need, especially for the reasons Deborah
>mentioned. In addition to any and all official, group run, organizationally
>focused sites (commercial or not) I would love to see gobs and gobs of
>personal letterboxing sites, regional sites, tools and techniques sites,
>etc.. Nothing thrills me more than seeing sites proliferate in celebration
>of a wonderful hobby or pursuit.
>
>Perhaps it would be a good tack to let as many types of sites pop up as
>possible, and then any interested ubersite can scan and surf and collect
>them for linking, and if the ubersite has some magnificent techno-engine
>that helps it to be the most efficient and traffic-generating site for the
>hobby (as has already been displayed by the mapping technique) people will
>chose to be part of it, either by linking or posting clues or being linked,
>rather than feel some sense of pressure, or think that there is only one
>place.
>
>Most of the successful resource sites I know of put a lot of effort in
>keeping current with new sites, and linking to them. Usually this means
>that whoever(s) are developing the resource site know a heck of a lot about
>the web landscape and this creates an expertise that is evident in the
>resource site. These are the sites that I trust and return to often.
>
>I think that there are letterboxers out there that are not yet using the
>web as a resource, and as the online letterboxing community gets bigger and
>bigger, then more sites and more lists and most importantly, *more boxes*
>enrich the whole deal.
>
>After all, to get good ideas, you have to have *lots* of ideas! %^)
>
>-Kate "1 box by 2000" Rutter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>www.intelleto.com
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: Marty Chamberlain (martyc@cyberdude.com) |
Date: 1999-05-26 12:27:03 UTC-04:00
At 04:52 PM 5/25/99 -0700, Kate wrote:
>l'boxers:
>
>Since my Letterboxer quotient is currently P0/F0 (placed zero, found zero
>(yet!) this may seem to be continuing the long-hanging list/site
>discussion, but I enjoy this list and am glad to be a part of it and want
>to contribute an opinion...
Kate...Hi! Don't feel bad about your Letterboxer quotient (hereafter LBQ).
My LBQ was P0/F0 for a long time. It's currently P6/F1, but I really hope
to get the "F" up soon. As more people place boxes I'm sure I'll have the
opportunity. I'm certainly glad you're a part of the hobby!
>I like looking for, finding and comparing websites. I love seeing lots of
>different ideas and styles on the web. I also think that uber-sites
>(umbrella sites) are an important need, especially for the reasons Deborah
>mentioned. In addition to any and all official, group run, organizationally
>focused sites (commercial or not) I would love to see gobs and gobs of
>personal letterboxing sites, regional sites, tools and techniques sites,
>etc.. Nothing thrills me more than seeing sites proliferate in celebration
>of a wonderful hobby or pursuit.
I agree with you 100%. The nature of "the web" is, by design
de-centralized. Uber-sites (great word, BTW) like Letterboxing-USA are
very important for cataloging centralized information about a hobby and
providing links (either local or off-site) to other info. I'm all for
keeping things informal and letting letterboxers do their thing.
---snip--->
>-Kate "1 box by 2000" Rutter
Marty "find more than 1 box by 2000" Chamberlain
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>l'boxers:
>
>Since my Letterboxer quotient is currently P0/F0 (placed zero, found zero
>(yet!) this may seem to be continuing the long-hanging list/site
>discussion, but I enjoy this list and am glad to be a part of it and want
>to contribute an opinion...
Kate...Hi! Don't feel bad about your Letterboxer quotient (hereafter LBQ).
My LBQ was P0/F0 for a long time. It's currently P6/F1, but I really hope
to get the "F" up soon. As more people place boxes I'm sure I'll have the
opportunity. I'm certainly glad you're a part of the hobby!
>I like looking for, finding and comparing websites. I love seeing lots of
>different ideas and styles on the web. I also think that uber-sites
>(umbrella sites) are an important need, especially for the reasons Deborah
>mentioned. In addition to any and all official, group run, organizationally
>focused sites (commercial or not) I would love to see gobs and gobs of
>personal letterboxing sites, regional sites, tools and techniques sites,
>etc.. Nothing thrills me more than seeing sites proliferate in celebration
>of a wonderful hobby or pursuit.
I agree with you 100%. The nature of "the web" is, by design
de-centralized. Uber-sites (great word, BTW) like Letterboxing-USA are
very important for cataloging centralized information about a hobby and
providing links (either local or off-site) to other info. I'm all for
keeping things informal and letting letterboxers do their thing.
---snip--->
>-Kate "1 box by 2000" Rutter
Marty "find more than 1 box by 2000" Chamberlain
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: Todd Lane (tlane@Princeton.EDU) |
Date: 1999-05-26 13:41:53 UTC-04:00
In reading the posts on this topic I was reminded of the web ring sort of
structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net evolving
into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
-Todd LBQ= P0, F2
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structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net evolving
into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
-Todd LBQ= P0, F2
Todd Lane Ph.D.
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: Thom Cheney (tcgrafx@imagina.com) |
Date: 1999-05-26 11:39:15 UTC-07:00
Todd Lane wrote:
>
> In reading the posts on this topic I was reminded of the web ring sort of
> structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
> same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net evolving
> into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
I could see that happening.
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>
> In reading the posts on this topic I was reminded of the web ring sort of
> structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
> same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net evolving
> into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
I could see that happening.
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: Marty Chamberlain (martyc@cyberdude.com) |
Date: 1999-05-26 15:04:13 UTC-04:00
At 11:39 AM 5/26/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Todd Lane wrote:
>>
>> In reading the posts on this topic I was reminded of the web ring sort of
>> structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
>> same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net
evolving
>> into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
>
>
>I could see that happening.
I have a better idea! It *is* happening! I've created a letterboxing
webring. I'll keep you posted on how to join. I should have it set up by
the end of today.
Marty
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>Todd Lane wrote:
>>
>> In reading the posts on this topic I was reminded of the web ring sort of
>> structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
>> same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net
evolving
>> into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
>
>
>I could see that happening.
I have a better idea! It *is* happening! I've created a letterboxing
webring. I'll keep you posted on how to join. I should have it set up by
the end of today.
Marty
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: CLARK Cara D (cara.d.clark@co.multnomah.or.us) |
Date: 1999-05-26 13:39:53 UTC-07:00
>Todd Lane wrote:
In reading the posts on this topic I was reminded of the web ring sort of
structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net evolving
into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
>I think this is a really good idea. I've seen lots of other web rings that
are on the web, and this burgeoning hobby (with it's many and varied
personalities and opinions) seems to be an excellent candidate
for the webring idea.
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In reading the posts on this topic I was reminded of the web ring sort of
structure that I have seen used to link a number of different sites on the
same topic. I could envision the letterboxing presence on the net evolving
into a similar format. Just a sort of semirandom musing.
>I think this is a really good idea. I've seen lots of other web rings that
are on the web, and this burgeoning hobby (with it's many and varied
personalities and opinions) seems to be an excellent candidate
for the webring idea.
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[L-USA] Re: More the merrier....
From: jjp (exposto1@airmail.net) |
Date: 1999-05-26 22:04:46 UTC-05:00
>I have a better idea! It *is* happening! I've created a letterboxing
>webring. I'll keep you posted on how to join. I should have it set up by
>the end of today.
>Marty
You GO Marty!!
Thanks!
Julie
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>webring. I'll keep you posted on how to join. I should have it set up by
>the end of today.
>Marty
You GO Marty!!
Thanks!
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